Robert Duncan on Walt Whitman


Episode #38 in the PennSound podcast series presents a 15-minute excerpt from Robert Duncan’s lectures on Walt Whitman presented at New College in three sessions between June 11 and 18, 1981.  The full recordings are available on PennSound’s Duncan page. The excerpt was edited by Nick DeFina and the podcast is introduced by Emily Harnett.

Poetry and architecture


In a Segue Series event at the Bowery Poetry Club hosted and curated by Tim Trace Peterson, Robert Kocik, Benjamin Aranda, and Vito Acconci each speak for about 26 minutes about relations between poetry and architecture. The event took place on April 25, 2009. Both audio and video recordings of each talk are available on PennSound. Peterson wrote this about the event afterward: “People really turned out for this event: I counted over 70 in the audience including David Antin, Ellen Zweig, Gail Scott, Wystan Curnow, Eileen Myles, Andrew Levy, Abigail Child, Walter Lew, Jonathan Skinner, Jennifer Scappetone, Andy Fitch, and many Segue regulars. But a portion of the audience was people I had never seen before, people connected with architecture who would otherwise perhaps not have the experience of attending a poetry event.” And Peterson’s account — as well as the text of the introduction to the event — can be found here. Matthew Bernstein edited the whole recording to create a 15 minute excerpt; Emily Harnett hosts and introduces the podcast, which is the 37th in the PennSound podcasts series.

Is it over already? (PoemTalk #73)

Steve Benson, 'Did the Lights Just Go Out?' from 'Open Clothes'


On February 8, 2003, performing at the Bowery Poetry Club without prepared text or notes, Steve Benson improvised a long poem composed entirely of questions. His transcript of this performance later appeared in the book Open Clothes (Atelos, 2005) as “Did the lights just go out” [text].  Later, Steve McLaughlin created two excerpts from the full audio recording:

Excerpt 1 (2:55): MP3
Excerpt 2 (2:37): MP3

For PoemTalk episode 73, Patrick Durgin, Thom Donovan, and Tyrone Williams joined Al Filreis at the Kelly Writers House to talk about a passage from this performance.

Tyrone noticed a similarity to the “talk poems” of David Antin (although acknowledging their different ideas about improvisation): for each it is important to understand how entering a room, unprepared, leads to work that comes from reacting to the space and particular environment.  The relation between a text and the space in which it is performed is always a significant matter, but never more so than in this unpredictable mode.  Pondering Benson’s idea that some of the material he utters is only intermittently “accessible to [his] attention,” Thom observes that what distinguishes Benson from other Language writers is the way he’s developed an improvisational practice in order to make himself “radically vulnerable.”  He knows the transitions in advance but doesn’t know what will fill in the spaces (the “body” of a work — the typical carrier of content) between the transitions, which are in this case the only semi-stable aspect.  This work unfolds as a way of “mediating or providing structure” to the fact of “becoming naked before his own interlocution,” in Thom’s phrase.  Patrick notes that a way of enjoying this work it is to deem it composition. “What you witness,” Patrick notes, “is not a performance but a composition. [An audience] is there as a piece of art is being composed.”

Three nights after the Bowery Poetry Club performance we used as the basis of our discussion — by then Benson has traveled to the Writers House in Philadelphia — he again improvised a long poem composed of questions, although on this occasion he then responded at length to inquiries about the method from the audience. His transcript of this performance also appears in Open Clothes — as “If you stop to listen to yourself think” and “Is your thinking about the words.” A full audio recording of the event, including the Q&A session, can be heard here.  Again, Steve McLaughlin created excerpts:

Excerpt 1 (2:25): MP3
Excerpt 2 (1:42): MP3
Excerpt 3 (2:27): MP3

In May 2011, Eric Baus wrote about Benson's improvised questions for his Jacket2 commentary, “Notes on PennSound.” In 2006, for Jacket issue 31, Rob Stanton reviewed Open Clothes and made reference to the transcription of the 2003 Writers House Q&A.

PoemTalk is produced by Al Filreis, was engineered this time by Steve McLaughlin, and edited, as always, by Steve McLaughlin. The series is sponsored by PennSound, the Kelly Writers House, and the Poetry Foundation. Program notes are hosted among the podcast series, of course, at Jacket2.

Four introductions to John Ashbery across five decades

Kenneth Koch, Richard Howard, David Lehman, Susan Schultz


The 35th episode of PennSound podcasts presents an anthology of introductions to readings given by John Ashbery: Kenneth Koch in 1963, Susan Schultz in 1996, David Lehman in 2008, and Richard Howard in 1967. Nick DeFina selected and edited the introductions from Ashbery’s PennSound page; Allison Harris hosts and introduces the podcast.

General introduction to Oulipo in 15 minutes

by Harry Mathews


In 1999 the Literature faculty and the Program in Writing and Humanistic Studies at MIT invited Harry Mathews to present on Oulipo. The complete recording is available at Harry Mathews's PennSound page. And we have segmented the audio — making available separate links to audio recordings of his introduction, his remarks on the Oulipo group, a brief Q&A session, and several readings of lipograms and N+7 writing. As a service particularly to those who don’t know much about Oulipo, Nick DeFina at PennSound has created an edited 15-minute excerpt of Mathews’s general overview. Now Emily Harnett offers an introduction to this 34th episode in the PennSound podcast series.